Talk:Caste

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Published genetics data on castes cannot be ignored[edit]

Some editors here who appear to be of not of the scientific background are reverting edits that cite published scientific research in highly reputed journals, such as the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA.

Who gives them the authority to judge on the scientific merit of published and accepted science research? -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkv22 (talk • contribs)

Philology correlates in Caste traditions[edit]

Hallo!: no need to provide references, sound, and writing, is self-evident: Brahmin comes from Brahma, the upper deity of the syncretic Hindu Trimurti, composed of an equivalent to Zeus, Dyauspitar, Jupiter, Deus, brought by the European settlers, and the local duality, conservation-destruction: 'Vishnu-Shiva'; Kashatriyas would equal the Persian: 'Satraps'='Governors'; 'Vaishyas', the: 'Vassals', 'Shudras'= 'Serfs'. 'Varna' once meant just: 'Color', as in the French: 'Vernis'='Enamel paint', and the Spanish: 'Barniz'= 'Varnish'; as the Sanskrit has a connection to one of the dialects of Classical Greek (Coulson: 'Teach yourself...Sanskrit'), the culture that brought Sanskrit and Prakrit to Indian subcontinent left a print in the places of the trip from Greece to India. 'Paryah', as: 'Yah', is a Name for the Almighty, could mean just: 'Beggars', 'By God', 'Pordiosero', 'Mendicant', as the people not having a Caste, not belonging to one, was not granted right to work.

The Caste system included detailed and comprehensive instructions about marriages, eg. offspring of a man of a peasant's family and a woman of a governor, princes or army family, should become a physician; it would be good having references to further readings about these bylaws.

The name: 'Punjab', meaning: 'Five rivers', a region, today part of Pakistan, from which Gypsies were expelled around XIII century AD, for an unknown reason, perhaps of a religious nature, is pronounced in Spanish: 'Pañab', coming from the number: 'Five': 'Pañca', in Sanskrit, 'Penta' in Greek, and the Arab term for: 'River'= 'Uad'.

No need showing that: 'Uttar Pradesh'= 'Upper Prairie', 'Madhya Pradesh'= 'Middle Praire', 'Undra Pradesh'= 'Under Prairie', that the name: 'Goswintha'= 'The Cow Path', of a Spanish Visigoth Queen, is the contemporary Indian name: 'Govind', this Queen was recalcitrant Aryan in religion, they had the announcement of Jesus by bishop Ulfilas, who may have interpreted strictly the text in OT, about wisdom, commonly taken as Jesus, the Son of the Almighty: 'Before times I was created'; as a creature, this wisdom can't be divine, but the 'Credo', profession of Faith, is clear about Jesus: 'Begotten, not made'. Gothic Aryans had a solar cult, receiving the names: 'Oberon', and: 'Alberic', a cult as in Beth-El, same as primitive Apollyon in Greece; also crystal clear that: 'Baratiya Janata', 'Hindu Nationalist Party', is: 'Party Homeland', in German: 'Partei Heimat'.

To show that Indo-Europeans and Europeans have common and quite close roots: Möchten Sie noch etwas?

A functional illiterate in Spanish Wikipedia, he reads, but doesn't understand what they read, denies all this, and deleted an analog entry in the article: 'Casta'. What a fuck!. Thanks. Regards. Gesund +

The Caste system was not implemented by Europeans, not by the so-called: 'Aryans', 'from a good family', even if they took the upper positions in community pyramids: PMID25932481, and PMID23209649 are obvious, summarized in http://press.nationalgeographic.com/2012/11/28/southern-india-caste-system-indo-europeans-genographic/. For sure the term 'Indo-Europeans' evidence a European root in the migrations that shaped part of the cultural and linguistic landscape of today's India. 'Ideology' issues, fighting the WW II in XXI century, is absurd. Thanks. Regards. Gesund +

Ancient Egypt[edit]

I have deleted the section on Ancient Egypt. The literature on Ancient Egypt does not support the idea that there was a caste system.As best I can tell, the referenced sources do not talk about caste either. Ancient Egypt had social classes, but that is not the same as having a caste system. Virtually every society of any size and complexity has social classes but only certain systems are considered to have a caste system.Bill (talk) 05:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Depressed classes[edit]

I am copying here the text contributed by an IP editor:

In the next (1911) Census, the Varna classification was continued, but large population groups like the Chamars (Leather workers) and Julaha (Weavers) were now put alongside what were earlier known as 'Outcasts'(~5% of the population), who consisted of groups like the Paraiyan, Halalkhore, Chhuhra and Mang etc, to arrive at a new artificial category called the 'Depressed Classes' with nearly 16% of the population under it. This group, that had never existed historically as a category before, was renamed 'Untouchables' by the mostly upper caste Indian social reformers of the time, who argued that 'the whole population of India, even the Brahman himself' was in a depressed condition. The specially disadvantaged therefore needed another name: 'Untouchable". The British, however, called the same group 'Exterior Castes' in the 1921 and 1931 Censuses, with the intention of moving the group out of the Hindu fold altogether, and then give it a separate electoral constituency. [1]

References

  1. ^ 'Untouchable': What is in a Name? Simon Charsley The Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute Vol. 2, No. 1 (Mar., 1996), pp. 1-23 https://www.jstor.org/stable/3034630

I can't find most of this text in the source. So I would like to see quotations that validate it. I am also not convinced of the text in the context of this article, which is about caste, not census categories. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:45, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Sri Lanka and Indonesia sections[edit]

In the Sri Lanka section is this: "The repetition of the same caste hierarchy even as recently as the 18th century, in the British/Kandyan period Kadayimpoth – Boundary books as well indicates the continuation of the tradition right up to the end of Sri Lanka's monarchy." I'm sure that's a word-by-word translation from some other language into English, but it came out as word salad. Anyone know what was intended?

The Indonesia section says the religious caste is both Brahmina and Brahmana. I'm just suggesting that the article pick one transliteration and stick to it. IAmNitpicking (talk) 14:10, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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