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Phonological chart[edit]

Article should have a phonology chart, and I'm suggesting a phonological chart which compares British English with American English, as people coming to learn English may have a sense of the American English as the standard, such that would make a good reference. -Inowen (nlfte) 23:43, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

why would they get that sense? surely everyone knows English originates in England. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.14.189 (talk) 17:30, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

New Zeland English?[edit]

Are there any occasions where it is acceptable to write in New Zealand English? Thanks Jeff Loveland 1970 (talk) 12:34, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

vague pronunciation chart[edit]

The dialect section contains a chart that shows the distribution of different pronunciations of the bath, grass, and dance vowels. Someone just changed the IPA values for it without a source. The problem is that the chart itself doesn't have IPA, nor is there even a source to be found. Can anyone come up with a proper source that lists the actual pronunciation in IPA and not just a spelling representation that everyone interprets differently? If not, I'll go ahead and delete it.--Megaman en m (talk) 09:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

As nobody responded, I have removed it for now.--Megaman en m (talk) 10:32, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

R-dropping not respected in many WP articles[edit]

There are very many articles in WP which ignore this fact. If you look at the entry for 'Leicester', for example, the audio file is clearly the BrE pronunciation /ˈlɛstə/, but the IPA shown is /ˈlɛstər/. And there are many more. Cwrwgar (talk) 12:19, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

-ise/-ize spellings[edit]

In the absence of a consensus on which version to use per MOS:RETAIN, we should use the "first post-stub revision that introduced an identifiable variety" of English. By my reckoning it is this: [1]. The -ise spelling is used in the word "standardised" so we can identify standard British English (as opposed to Oxford spelling) as the variety of English used in the article. Tammbeck (talk) 09:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for taking this to the talk page. I am a little confused as I thought you reverted my edit to retain the 'ize' spelling and not 'ise'. The link you give above is evidence that 'ise' should be used. Also the manual of style states a number of things that would support using the 'ise' spelling, namely: MOS:SPELL states 'ise' is the more common variation in British English. WP:ISE states that 'ise' is more commonly used by European, Commonwealth and British organisations as well as major British publications. I realise both variations are used and there is no definitive answer to the usage but the more common one seems to be 'ise' so this would seem to be the one we should use here. Thanks. Robynthehode (talk) 10:20, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I reverted your edit in an attempt to follow policy, not in an attempt to use any particular spelling. On closer examination the rules set out in MOS:RETAIN favour "-ise" in this case. Had the "first post-stub revision" used "-ize" then Oxford spelling should have been used throughout. Tammbeck (talk) 10:50, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Although 'ize' would need to have been used I would have argued against this for the reasons above in an attempt to reach a reasoned consensus based on common usage and not a slavish adherence to policy. But this is moot now. Thanks Robynthehode (talk) 11:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

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