Talk:HIV/AIDS

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About a part[edit]

'prevention: male circumcision', really?!

someone should erase that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.154.20.252 (talk) 11:52, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

How? Cynegugu (talk) 18:54, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Transmission from Oral[edit]

It's noted that HIV is transmitted though vaginal, anal and oral sex. Simply not true. No cases of HIV transmission have been reported among female partners giving condomless oral sex. And there hasn't been a single documented case of transmission to a partner getting condomless oral sex, either among MSM or heterosexuals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.220.74.134 (talk • contribs)

Hi, can you please cite a reliable source that supports your claim? This source clearly states that oral HIV transmission does occur. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 02:39, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello, a third observer here. It is possible, but rare. The risk is negligible if you are receiving oral but do not take chances! There is always a first. 108.173.19.227 (talk) 03:04, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Viruses portal[edit]

Hello. I note that the link to the Viruses portal was removed some time ago, and wondered if it was ok to restore it? This is one of the selected articles there, and there is a fair amount of other HIV/AIDS related content, including news, events, images, biographies, drugs and DYKs. I must stress this is an old hand-curated portal that has no automated content. Espresso Addict (talk) 13:09, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Video summary[edit]

Video summary (script)

Not sure why this was removed? It is a video formatted review of the lead with inline references. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:02, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Possibly because the picture is distorted. It is stretched horizontally. 86.130.28.61 (talk) 13:29, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Circumcision is useless[edit]

Here is a new study:

"In a multivariate analysis, based on the 2013 DHS survey, circumcised men were found to have the same level of infection as uncircumcised men, after controlling for age, sexual behaviour and socioeconomic status. Lastly, circumcised men tended to have somewhat riskier sexual behaviour than uncircumcised men.

So there you have it: circumcision is useless against AIDS. Who's pushing for this farce anyway? --177.135.49.221 (talk) 09:45, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

That's a primary source, not a secondary source; our standards and policies like neutral point of view require adherence to the point of view represented in high-quality secondary sources. Let's wait and see whether the secondary sources shift in consensus. — soupvector (talk) 05:26, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Have a study by the US Navy:

"After adjustment for demographic and behavioral risk factors, lack of circumcision was not found to be a risk factor for HIV or STI."

--179.182.143.17 (talk) 20:11, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

"No cure"[edit]

Currently the article makes no mention of Timothy Ray Brown, and states outright that "there is no cure" for HIV.

Obviously, Brown's case is not an especially useful cure, but nonetheless he was cured by a known mechanism (i.e. not a freak accident; we know what did it). I don't think something that's not literally true ought to be stated outright in Wikipedia mainspace. I'm just not sure what to put in its place.

Does anybody have some suggestions on what we can say to concisely convey both that a) there isn't a usable, safe cure, b) there technically have been real cases of people who did have HIV and don't anymore? Magic9mushroom (talk) 15:22, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Mother-to-child content[edit]

TamaraStaples, regarding this, will you explain why you removed "This is the third-most common way in which HIV is transmitted globally.", "many of these measures are not available in the developing world.", and "Infection with HIV during pregnancy is also associated with miscarriage."?

Material supported by old sources doesn't mean that the material is outdated. The "Mother-to-child" section should adequately summarize the HIV and pregnancy and HIV and breastfeeding articles per WP:Summary style.

Also keep in mind that you shouldn't mark non-minor edits as minor; see WP:Minor.

No need to ping me if you reply. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:34, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand what it means to "ping" you.
Mother to child transmission is no longer definitely the third most common way in which HIV is transmitted. Mother to child transmission has reduced considerably in the last few years. I couldn't easily find a more up todate reference but I will look again. Few figures are available globally for transmission through drug use. If the statement can't be substantiated then it needs to be removed. Or it could be put in that at a certain date mother to child transmission was the third more common transmission route. but I am not sure that this would add much to the article. Maybe it should go in the history page?
Many measures, such as treatment with ARVs are now available in developing countries.
Except for one old reference there is no evidence that infection with HIV during pregnancy causes miscarriage.
I am sorry if I incorrectly marked them as minor edits.
With regard to exclusive breastfeeding WHO (which is an out of date reference) certainly does not now suggest that HIV infected mothers practice exclusive breastfeeding only. If safe formula is available that should be used. It is no longer recommended that the "acceptable, feasible etc." wording is used. It needs to be mentioned that both mother and babies should be taking ARVs.
I think that the whole of the second paragraph starting "Despite these positive indicators" needs to be removed. There are now in my view good guidelines for HIV infected women in developing countries which is partly why several more countries have now eliminated mother to child transmission of HIV.
The practice of breastfeeding for HIV positive mothers seems no longer to be a highly contested public health concern. Counselling is no longer recommended at the level of individual women. Policy is now set at a national level. What is still unclear is how long women with HIV should exclusively breastfeed for.
I don't think that the second paragraph under PMTCT policy challenges is very accurate. A major issue seems to be that women, whether breastfeeding or not, loose contact with services and no longer adhere to taking arvs.
The phrase "third world countries" has now generally been replaced with "developing" countries. Also, a lot of developments have taken place since the WHO convention in 2006.
There is information about exclusive breastfeeding generally, which can't go on any of the HIV pages. Where should it go? It probably needs to go on the breastfeeding page but this is very long anyway.

TamaraStaples (talk) 10:52, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

TamaraStaples, thanks for commenting. I removed the previous above heading you added since there was no need for a separate section for your reply. I also WP:Indented your post. As for "ping"? See WP:Ping. It's how you got my alert above.
Doc James, any thoughts on what TamaraStaples stated above? Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:15, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
TamaraStaples, regarding the things you stated, we need to go by WP:MEDRS-compliant sources. We can't go by our own thoughts, such as "there are now in my view" and "seems no longer to be a highly contested public health concern." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

I was just trying to be polite on a talk page. I was not suggesting wording for puting in the page. An alternative way of expressing myself would be to say that There are guidelines for HIV infected women in developing countries. Also, I would just take out the statement about highly contested public health concern which I don't think was referenced. TamaraStaples (talk) 10:30, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Vertical transmission is still fairly common.[1]
What are currently the most common methods of spread I am not sure. Would need to look further. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:03, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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