Talk:Alan Turing

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Ashes[edit]

This source says that his ashes were scattered in the gardens of the crematorium which seems perfectly normal. It seems quite an odd claim to me that they were scattered "near" the crematorium. The single current source (given only in the infobox) is a Guardian film review? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

AFAIR, there's a bizarre law where the one thing you can't do in a crematorium is to store or scatter ashes in it. Like the one thing you can't do in a wedding venue is to hold a wedding reception there. So any ashes have to go "outside" the crematorium, where that's a very subtle boundary and may be as simple as "the gardens adjoining", but it's still a recognised demarcation. Thus both are correct. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:42, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
I see. A source for that would be useful. I guess it depends on how you define "the crematorium". Stating "in the gardens of" seems equally correct and not open to interpretation. This is the wording used by Hodges (2012) on page 665, so I have adjusted the article accordingly. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

American English sources?[edit]

I little while ago I made an edit adding an extra source. The edit got reverted which I respect, but it confused me a little when the user that reverted wrote: "and this article uses British English, not American Englis". This confused me because I cited from a book wrote in American English. Are books written in American English not accepted as sources? -User:Year1888,10th April 2019, 12:37 (UTC)

@Year1888: I was the editor who reverted your change. To be clear, sources written in American English are fine to use. But your edit had two quite separate problems:
  • You changed the spelling of "recognised" to "recognized" in the sentence "The headmistress recognised his talent early on, as did many of his subsequent teachers.". That is the change from British English to American English that I objected to; it was nothing to do with the source.
  • The "source" you cited was not a source at all. It was simply this "The Innovators p. 40". That links to a Wikipedia disambiguation page, which is not a valid source. It looks like you are trying to cite a book (Walter Isaacson's book?). You need to use the {{cite book}} template and fill out the details of the book.
Railfan23 (talk) 13:48, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

A change from "recognised" to "recognized" is not a change to American English. The forms in -ize are/were preferred by Oxford and The Times, while -ise is/was the choice of Cambridge and the Guardian. While -ise has become more commonplace in UK contexts in recent years, we are not yet at the stage where it is the only acceptable spelling in English. Sussexonian (talk) 19:39, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Alan Turing and David Clemens (from Frank Perry's David and Lisa, 1962)[edit]

Have you ever noticed the resemblance of Alan Turing and David Clemens (Keir Dullea) in Frank Perry's B-and-W movie David and Lisa? The thing that really surprised me (while watching David and Lisa for the first time in 2011, YouTube) was David's ingenious invention called the Radio-Controlled Clock. At that moment (in 2011) I had one of these radio-controlled clocks hanging on the wall! Alan Turing, of course, was not the inventor of a special kind of clocks (or?), anyway, I wonder if the life and work of Alan Turing could have been an (or perhaps THE) inspiration to create the rare and extremely intelligent personality of David Clemens (?). DannyJ.Caes (talk) 16:21, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

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Colourisation Image[edit]

Alan Turing Age 16 Colorized.jpg

What are people's thoughts in changing the original Black and White portrait of Turing from when he was 16 to this colouristation seen here for the lead infobox image?  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 22:44, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

I vote no. I think articles should reflect the history of the subject. Since black and white photography was the standard, then, and since the original photo was black and white, I think we should stick with black and white. Thank you, Attic Salt (talk) 22:59, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
I definitely see your point, thanks for your input.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 13:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree with the above comment that keeping the b&w photo would be best, for historical/material accuracy. Thanks for the suggestion though! Wingedserif (talk) 00:40, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
I used to be totally against colourised images, but recent colourised images of WWI films showed me how they could add a surprising amount to their impact. However, in this case, adding colours that are a matter of speculation seems quite wrong. So I vote 'No' to colourisation of this image. --TedColes (talk) 07:22, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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