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But then someone needs to proofread really good.
Ferrari wallpapers[edit]
Hi, I'd like to ad some external links to some Ferrari wallpapers hosted on my site at http://www.cartitans.com/Ferrari/index.php
Does this comply with Wiki codes?
Thanks,
Michael CarTitans 13:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
What's the meaning of S.p.A.?
S.p.A. in italian means "Società per Azioni" which is a society that rapresents the partecipation of its owners through stocks. I'd need somebody to make this better though. --Gino
I removed the part about "Sugar Daddy" because I felt it was too informal, and anyhow not really true. I think that the quintessential "Sugar Daddy" car is the Pontiac Trans-Am or perhaps the Chevrolet Corvette. Ferrari's are too rare.
I own a Ferrari, a 1979 Ferrari 308. It is the worst car I have ever owned. It is the most beautiful car ever made.
Hi Jimbo I'm feel happy not to have win your car. Ericd 20:43 Mar 24, 2003 (UTC)
- "most beautiful car ever made."? That is so not NPOV. ;) And wrong. =] The 246 is. TREKphiler hit me ♠ 20:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
"The rampant horse however does not identify the Ferrari brand only: Fabio Taglioni's Ducati too had it on its motorbikes. Taglioni's father was in fact a companion of Baracca's, and fought in his famous squad, the 91st Air Squad - renamed SPAD (Société Pour Aviation et ses Dérives) - but when Ferrari became famous and the early legend started to accompany it, Ducati abandoned the horse, some suggest because of a private agreement between the two brands."
ERROR: Not sure where this would go but the pricing for the Enzo is inaccurate. It was offered at $695,000 not $1.8 million dollars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.88.148 (talk) 15:04, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Squad/SPAD same thing isn't it ?
Seriously SPAD was a French company manufacturing fighters. One of the shareholders was Blèriot. They sold planes to the Italians and the US and maybe others. Baracca flew a SPAD. Ericd 20:50 Mar 24, 2003 (UTC)
"91st Air Squad"? 91st Aviation Squadron, don't you mean? (In Italian...) Trekphiler 00:40, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Rampant Horse[edit]
I was wondering if any might know who Count Francesco Baracca commissioned to paint the Rampant Horse on his plan?
Thank you!
C.J. Hepburn
I changed the Scuderia logo back to the old version in the "Cavallino Rampante" chapter. The images there shall demonstrate the similarity between the Cavallino and the Stuttgart Coat of Arms. Thus, it does not make sense to show here the logo on a car. --Pfg 16:58, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I deleted & rewrote this:
- "The horse was originally the symbol of Count Francesco Baracca, a legendary asso (ace) of the Italian air force during World War I, who painted it on the side of his planes. Baracca died very young on June 19, 1918, shot down after 34 victories; he soon became a national hero.
- "Baracca had wanted the prancing horse on his planes because his squad, the "Battaglione Aviatori", was enrolled in a Cavalry regiment (air forces were at their first years of life and had no separate administration), and also because he himself was reputed to be the best cavaliere of his team.
- "It has been supposed the choice of a horse was perhaps partly because his noble family was known for having many horses on their estates at Lugo di Romagna. However another theory suggests Baracca copied the rampant horse design from a shot down German pilot who had the emblem of the city of Stuttgart on his plane. This is supported by the evidence Barraca's horse looks more similar to the one of Stuttgart (not changed since 1938) than the current Ferrari design, especially as the legs of the horses are concerned.
- "Interestingly, rival German sports car manufacturer Porsche designed its logo by embeddeding the prancing horse logo of Stuttgart into the emblem of the state of Württemberg, just like the city is placed within the state. In the 1920s, Ferdinand Porsche had constructed supercharged cars for Mercedes-Benz in Stuttgart before starting his own engineering company there in the 1930s, designing the Auto Union race cars, amongst others.
- "Curiously, the name Stuttgart is derived from Stutengarten, an ancient form of the modern German word Gestüt, which translates into English as stud farm and into Italian as scuderia. In turn, the Italians call Stuttgart Stoccarda. Obviously, the Ferrari-led Alfa team often met the Silver Arrows Mercedes-Benz (from Stuttgart itself) and later Auto Union at race tracks in the 1920s and 30s, so each knew of the other.
While interesting, this isn't relevant to Ferrari. (I also sense an Italian bias.) If anyone wants to include it on the Baracca page, with reference to his influence on Ferrari, feel free. Trekphiler 23:54, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Thinking about the history of the cavallino, it occurs to me we could & should create a page on side/nose art, where its use might be mentioned. Could also include the Stork of 12h Fighter Gp (Fr AF), the Hat in the Ring (17h Aero Sqn, USAAS?), & the like. Comment? Trekphiler 11:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I restored the original version of the "cavallino rampante" chapter because it is interesting information and the chapter is no too long. In my (and I believe many other's)opinion this is very "ferrari-relevant".--Pfg 17:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sure, just bin other people's work of one week! I've re-reverted and edited it. If you think more infos need to be in the text, do it properly! --Matthead 23:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Ok, Matthead, but I added again the two main theories for the origin of Baracca's "cavallino". This information is very"ferrari-relevant". --Pfg 17:25, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Red[edit]
Red seems to be "the color" of Ferrari - all their racecars are painted red and pictures of Ferraris are often of red ones. Does anyone know why this is? The articles doesn't say.
Red is the FIA's national racing color of Italy. (Originally, all Ferraris were yellow... This is now Belgium's color.) Trekphiler 23:57, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Yes, Ferraris are traditionally red because it is Italy's official racing color. However, the Ferrari emblem is placed on a yellow background, and yellow is the official color of the city of Modena, where Enzo was born. One of the things pointing to the contrary would be the model name "Testarossa" which directly translates from Italian as "redhead". I have seen nothing indicating Ferrari's official color, though, so I am not even sure that they have one. To be honest though, it is my belief that the red is simply for loyalty to Italy, and that yellow would be more likely to be their official color. marcusmv3 20:40, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- The colour of the UK is green (see british racing green) so it's a popular choise for brittish sports cars. White for Germany (seems to be less common, but silver metallic is quite popular). Light blue for France (many Bugattis are light blue). See List of international auto racing colors. // Liftarn
- At one point, ferraris were only available in red..
- Yellow is indeed the official color of Ferrari, not red. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.136.69.211 (talk) 03:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC).
- Red is used for Ferrari race cars, but cars sold to the public have often been in other colors, like yellow. John Anderson 11:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Yellow is the official colour of Ferrari.88.196.185.133 (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I also agree that back in the early ages of Ferrari that the one color they had left was testarossa the same color that shaped ferrari todayco Correctguy75 (talk) 23:18, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Dino[edit]
His name was used after his premature death (at 24?). I'd have added why, but can't recall; I think it was leukemia. Trekphiler 00:36, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Legend has it that the V6 engine that Enzo used in the first Dino named model was designed by Dino himself on his deathbed, although I have seen no solid proof for this. marcusmv3 20:35, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Li'l GTO[edit]
Can somebody correct the sidebar reference to the 288 GTO? I've never heard of it, & as I recall, it was a 275 (3.3L). Trekphiler 01:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
It is correct. The 288 GTO was based on the 308's body and has a 2.8L twin-turbocharged V8 with 400hp. It was the supercar predecessor to the F40 and widely regarded as one of the most exciting and understated Ferraris of all time. I believe offical Ferrari documentation referred to the car as simply the "GTO", although it is always referred to with its number designation to avoid confusion with the 250 GTO as well as other various GTO models of other manufacturers (at least on the car forum that I moderate). Tifosi should be aware of such significant models. marcusmv3 20:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Mozilla Problem[edit]
Trying to open this page in Firefox 1.0.4 causes it to freeze and crash. Any ideas why? (This does not happen when looking at other pages in Wikipedia.) MrHumperdink 04:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- No idea, but the 1.0.x versions are outdated, as 1.5.0.1 (or later?) is available and working fine. Maybe the issue was known and corrected already. You could investigate yourself by "try & error", i. e. opening old versions until it doesn't crash anymore. You also could notice the Mozilla/Firefox-developers, but I suspect they do not care too much about older versions. --Matthead 09:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
(This is the only page on Wikipedia that crashes Firefox 1.0.4 - at least that I have came across...is there some extra code or something added? EDIT: Could it be that the 'Ferrari logo' and the 'coat of arms' images are ".svg" files?)
Yeah, this happens to me too with Netscape. Not just this page, but every page having to do with Ferrari seems to cause my browser to freeze and crash.
Out of date[edit]
The records by the ferrari f1 team are out of date I believe. --Ballchef 07:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Ferrari 500 Mondial[edit]
I have read that in the mid 1950s Ockelbo-Lundgren made a replica of the Ferrari 500 Mondial (now sold as Pagano[1]), but I haven't managed to find any info on it. It don't seem to be on the list here. Was it overlooked or is it listed under another name? // Liftarn
Success of Ferrari[edit]
Ferrari was also succesful in the 2000's (VERY SUCCESSFUL IN F1), winning 5 out of 7 championships in the 2000's so far.. i'm adding the 2000's to the intro.
Carerra Panamerica[edit]
Hi
Ferrari built and shipped 3 cars for the last (cancelled) Carerra Panamerica race in the 50's. A friend of mine Jim Hall of Houston TX, not to be confused with Jim Hall of Chapparal fame (they did compete against each other when the Chapparal was still a front engined car). Bought one of these 3 4.9 Ferraris and raced it up into the late 60's at SCCA events in Texas. This car was very fast for it's time. It was clocked at 183mph at the annual 4th of July event in Galveston TX. There was nothing tempermental about this Ferrari. It would sit idling for hours in the texas heat between races in the pit area.
I have never seen any documentation of this car, and would be interested to find where it wound up.
Surprised there has been no mention that Ferraris are among the most desirable cars ever made, and are one of the ultimate status symbols of wealth in the western wealth. So I've got the ball rolling.
External Link[edit]
Hi i have currently made a new exotic car site here. I was wanting to add the relevant pages to relevant wiki pages and wondering if thats ok to do so? Please let me know.
Thanks
Richard
External links[edit]
Carcrazy seems to be continually reverting my link to the DMOZ in the external links section of this article. Links to the Open Directory Project is actually an acceptable means of curbing linkspam in wikipedia articles, by providing a single link to a link repository that website editors can use to add their site to that directory, as opposed to adding their link to the wikipedia article. Many other wikipedia articles utilize this method, particularly ones that are prone to a high volume of linkspam, so I do not think that Carcrazy's accusations of linkspam here are acceptable.
If you own or know of a popular ferrari-related website, please add your link to the DMOZ site, and not directly to the external links section. Dr. Cash 22:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
External links[edit]
How is spamming wikipedia with DMOZ link is going to help stop spamming in in wikipedia? DMOZ is old and unless you are an editor or you are paying an editor, you will have very little chance to add a site to DMOZ. There are also pornographic site listed in DMOZ, do we really want to send people to such a site? There are external links to Ferrari own web site and Museum and that should be enough.--Carcrazy 02:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- Currently, dmoz links are OK according to WP:EL. If you disagree with that policy/guidelines, you should take it to the WP:EL talk page. OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Random Text[edit]
There is some random text in capital letters throughout the history section of the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.185.236.111 (talk) 20:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC).
- Removed. DH85868993 22:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Badge, Stuttgart and Naples[edit]
I find it odd that in the section on the badge, it talks about similarities to the Coat of Arms of Stuttgart, when the Province of Naples (actually in Italy) is even more similar to the design used at the Ferrari logo. Surley this should be mentioned somewhere in the article as it is actually an Italian company. Opinions Ferrari experts? - SalvoCalcio 22:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Pencils[edit]
Since when did Ferrari license pencils?
--Stanleytheman 21:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Engine Displacement Naming Convention[edit]
The article states that "Four-Cylinder and V6 models used the total displacement (in decilitres) for the first two digits and the number of cylinders as the third." Then it goes on to state that the 206 was 2.0L four-cyl and the 348 was a 3.4L V6... This is blatantly wrong: The 348 was a V8 and the 206 was a V6. Wasn't it really something like "non-twelve cylinder" (not I4/V6) cars that used this naming convention? Jonheese 21:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not a Ferrari expert, but, as I understand the system: V12s used displacement of 1 cyl (365=4.4 l); flat 12s used displacement/12 (512=5 l flat 12); others used decilitres/cyls (308=3 l V8, 206=2 l V6). Clear(er?)? Trekphiler (talk) 14:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC) (Recently, this seems to've been thrown out the nearest window, so the likes of the new Modena leave me completely confused...)
The Ferrari naming convention is very confusing, but what's been said here isn't quite right. The Ferrari 412S was a one of a kind 4 liter V12 built in 1958, the 412P was the customer version of the 330 P3 sold in 1967, so there were some V-12 cars built using the total displacement plus cylinder count. There were also some 4 cylinder cars that used the single cylinder displacement as the designator, like the 2 liter 500 Testa Rossa 3 liter 750 Monza and 2.5 liter 625 LM. The six cylinder inline engined cars, the 118 and 121 LM, I have no idea what convention they followed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowcatcher1 (talk • contribs) 05:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
page move to Ferrari S.p.A.[edit]
according to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Companies ("The legal status of the company (Corp., plc, Inc. or LLC), is not normally included") and Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Page_naming_conventions ("When there is a well known primary meaning for a term or phrase, much more used than any other ... then that topic may be used for the title of the main article, with a disambiguation link at the top") the lemma Ferrari was and is the correct name for this article. That's why I'm going to revert that page move (which wasn't discussed here after all).--BSI (talk) 19:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Ferrari Millechili[edit]
Can we add the 2010 Millechili to the models section? I got info on the car and driver magazine: weight:less than 2200 lbs, horse power:around 600, wheel base:104.3 in, engiene: V10, cars going to production:300(est.), price: at least $500,000 (not euros). The car is most likely to be fitted in the concept cars section. This is according to Car and Driver magazines, Jun 08 edition. signed by: Ferrariguy1000 (talk) 22:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
-I have added proof of existance of the ferrari millechili: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/future_cars_2009_and_beyond/2010_ferrari_millechili_car_news
WHICH YEAR IS THE 590 MODEL18:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)66.74.74.2 (talk)ALBERT
Ferrari 246T[edit]
Where might this open wheel racing car go? --Falcadore (talk) 08:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Ferrari 125 photo[edit]
I don't think the Ferrari 125 photo, featuring someone's face in front of the car, could be considered encyclopedic... maybe it should be removed. --88.12.131.66 (talk) 01:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
You said in the first paragraph that Enzo Ferrari founded the company in 1928 but in the bit at the side you said that ferrari was founded in 1947. There is two different answers, which is right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cr1000 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
The P4/5 is not a Ferrari model, it was made by Pininfarina from an Enzo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhbjorn (talk • contribs) 20:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
This Article is terrible. Apart from anything else, it's the best avoidance of mentioning Michael Schumacher that I've ever seen. Even if it was edited by his worst enemy, Michael Schumacher is the World's most successful racing driver ( FACT! ) and was instrumental in Ferrari's comeback in F1 ( FACT! ) and is their most successful driver ever ( FACT! ). The way these pages get edited is becoming tiresome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.105.1 (talk) 17:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Ferrari 365 GTC/4 and Ferrari 365 GT4 2+2[edit]
I've made new articles for these two models, which were previously included in the Ferrari Daytona page. Please help update/expand the new pages and correct links as required. Thanks. Spute (talk) 21:55, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Prancing horses drag me away[edit]
I'm very tempted to delete some of the "notable" drivers. Arnoux, Pironi, Tambay, & Irvine? Really? For what, being last? Much as I hate to admit it, Gilles is more notable for being killed in a Ferrari than anything else. Is there some minimum requirement? If not, I suggest there should be, like actually winning a world championship (or even a race?). TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 17:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- All of the people you mention won races for Ferrari, I'd say that would be a reasonable criteria for inclusion in that list.Tubefurnace (talk) 19:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Huh. I don't recall Eddie or Patrick doing it.... Even so, with Ferrari's history, shouldn't the bar be a bit higher? Just a win would be OK if it was, oh, BRM... TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 22:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- 'Sfunny, I recall Eddie winning four and Patrick two. I've heard there'a a good reference resource called Wikipedia you could use to check... -- Ian Dalziel (talk) 01:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Y'know, I've heard WP is often criticized as being unreliable. (Any fool can edit, y'know.) And I stand by the proposition a Ferrari driver, like a Lotus or McLaren driver, should probably have to meet a higher standard. IMO, it's analogous to including every guest star of some P.I. show. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 08:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I do agree that the list is likely to grow excessively. Sooner than argue the toss about notability in Ferrari terms, though, I'd suggest deleting the thing completely and replacing it with a category. -- Ian Dalziel (talk) 11:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think we can delete them all; given their importance to F1 & Ferrari, leaving off Fangio & Schumie would bring howls & probably edit warring. List of Ferrari drivers, anyone? As a first idea, tho, I'd delete anybody who didn't become WDC in a Ferrari. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 12:18 & 12:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I do agree that the list is likely to grow excessively. Sooner than argue the toss about notability in Ferrari terms, though, I'd suggest deleting the thing completely and replacing it with a category. -- Ian Dalziel (talk) 11:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Y'know, I've heard WP is often criticized as being unreliable. (Any fool can edit, y'know.) And I stand by the proposition a Ferrari driver, like a Lotus or McLaren driver, should probably have to meet a higher standard. IMO, it's analogous to including every guest star of some P.I. show. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 08:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- 'Sfunny, I recall Eddie winning four and Patrick two. I've heard there'a a good reference resource called Wikipedia you could use to check... -- Ian Dalziel (talk) 01:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Huh. I don't recall Eddie or Patrick doing it.... Even so, with Ferrari's history, shouldn't the bar be a bit higher? Just a win would be OK if it was, oh, BRM... TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 22:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Alonso[edit]
i have changed "will be" to "has" regarding Alonso driving for Ferrari F1 in 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.46.100 (talk) 13:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from MaqDiesel, 13 May 2011[edit]
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Enzo Ferrari did intend on building street legal cars that could be used in racing along with street driving.
MaqDiesel (talk) 05:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Stickee (talk) 09:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Good afternoon, I am a Ferrari fan and concerning this page I would like to add something in the "related links" section, so that surfers visiting this page could learn something else about Ferrari and have more infos about it.
The links I would like to add are: Ferrari official website http://www.ferrari.com/English/Pages/Home.aspx Ferrari Current range http://www.ferrari.com/English/GT_Sport%20Cars/CurrentRange/Pages/Current_Range.aspx Formula1 Channel http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1/Pages/Home.aspx Corse Clienti section http://www.ferrari.com/English/Scuderia/Pages/Home.aspx Ferrari museum http://www.ferrari.com/English/about_ferrari/Ferrari-Museum/Pages/Home-Museo.aspx
Thanks in advance ~ ~ ~ 15:33, 30 May 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferrari passion (talk • contribs)
EXTERNAL LINKS[edit]
Good morning, I am a Ferrari fan and concerning this page I would like to add something in the "related links" section, so that surfers visiting this page could learn something else about Ferrari and have more infos about it.
The links I would like to add are: Ferrari official website http://www.ferrari.com/English/Pages/Home.aspx Ferrari Current range http://www.ferrari.com/English/GT_Sport%20Cars/CurrentRange/Pages/Current_Range.aspx Formula1 Channel http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1/Pages/Home.aspx Corse Clienti section http://www.ferrari.com/English/Scuderia/Pages/Home.aspx Ferrari museum http://www.ferrari.com/English/about_ferrari/Ferrari-Museum/Pages/Home-Museo.aspx
Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferrari passion (talk • contribs) 09:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- There's already a link to the official website. We generally don't link to specific pages within official sites. --NeilN talk to me 13:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
The proper meaning of SEFAC[edit]
I recently stumbled across the SEFAC abbreviation again, and was curious about its meaning.
Firstly, I read on this page that it supposedly stands for 'Scuderia Enzo Ferrari Auto Corse', and elsewhere I've found an alternative 'Scuderia Enzo Ferrari Automobili Corse', but apparently both are incorrect.
On the transcendent Autosport.com Nostalgia Forum, I saw a scan/picture of an old Ferrari document, which has 'SEFAC' as well as "Societa' per azioni Esercizio Fabbriche Automobili e Corse" [intermediate capitals added] as its meaning.
Googling this exact phrase, shows a bunch of trademark and patent sites, proving that this name is indeed a Ferrari trademark — to my untrained eye, that is.
Does this warrant change the SEFAC bit on this page?
Lustigson (talk) 14:37, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, without knowing what doc that is & its provenance, probably not. It means there's info SEFAC's meaning on the page is wrong & needs more research, in hope somebody can source the scanned doc. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
The most expensive in the history of Ferrari[edit]
Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: At auction in Monaco Ferrari 625 TRC Spider in 1957. year, which is produced in only two copies and is considered one of the best ever by the Italian factory in Maranello made, sold for 5.04 million euros. The buyer is unknown.93.137.33.90 (talk) 22:53, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- You seem to quote this writer a lot. Assuming this information belongs in the article (I don't think it does), do you have a reference from a reliable, published source for this information? 72Dino (talk) 23:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
The 400's years of production?[edit]
Article for the Ferrari 400 states 1976 to 1989. What exactly is this model, then? The sign in front of it says Ferrari 400 Superamerica.
- https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/456509_305099076236824_1758750239_o.jpg Anyone have any idea? Pininfarina did the coachwork. --RThompson82 (talk) 07:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Controversy[edit]
Due to being one of those special brands with fans (like Apple) I expect to get shot down but I honestly do think it's potentially relevant since a lot of pages do contain controversy sections and we are to be bold. I'm talking about this article http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins He is one of the most respected car journalists as far as I can tell. To save anyone clicking and having to read for a summary, it contains accusations that Ferrari are over protective of their cars when it comes to interacting with journalists going as far as saying they cheat i.e. press cars are tuned much higher than the ones you might actually receive when bought. Chrisjwowen (talk) 22:36, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Info box[edit]
WHy does the info box not list Fiat as the parent of Ferrari? 108.172.115.8 (talk) 01:09, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
This article... bothers me[edit]
Is it just me, or does this article read like it was written by a 12 year old? Something about its tone of voice is definitely off and it seems out of place when compared to the rest of Wikipedia (It also uses parentheses like this a lot and used the word "though" a little too often, which comes off as unprofessional to me). There's only two citations in the entire article too, what gives?
--72.207.253.76 (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- The article is not semi-protected, you can WP:REWRITE it if you want to. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:41, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
External links[edit]
Just in case anyone's wondering why I approved 183.11.103.74 (talk · contribs)'s edits, it's not because I think they're a good addition to the "External links section" (they probably aren't), but because it's a good faith edit and as such cannot fall foul of pending changes. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:29, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Supercars[edit]
Aren't all Ferraris supercars ? The article says "the companies' loftiest efforts" which would refer to Enzo , Laferrari etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Automobililamborghini (talk • contribs) 20:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Concept car section[edit]
the concept car section is severely out of date and is incoherent.Michaeljuan (talk) 02:52, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Prancing Horse[edit]
The Italian term given here for the Ferrari symbol is Cavallino Rampante, but that actually means "Prancing Pony" (--ino is the diminutive form). "Prancing Horse" would translate to Cavallo Rampante. So for the sake of accuracy, either "Cavallino" should be changed to "Cavallo", or "Horse" to "Pony". --2001:888:10:D5F:0:0:0:2 (talk) 15:34, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Prancing Horse and my photograph of one at a Pop Up Store in Madrid, 2014[edit]
Ferrari Pop Up Stores: In June of 2010 in New York City, a Ferrari Store Opened On Park Avenue with a massive collection of Ferrari-branded clothing and accessories in addition to its cars.) (undo) [automatically accepted]|
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thomas.W — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Adam Kess (talk • contribs)
- @David Adam Kess: It's easy to see from your contributions that you're very interested in promoting your own photography on Wikipedia, but WP is not an image repository, that's what Commons is for, and the material you added to Ferrari was totally promotional, and does not belong in the article. Several of the articles you have added images to also seem to need a clean-up, such as Salamanca (Madrid) where you have added an excessive number of images of doors (suggested reading: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images). And please sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~). Thomas.W talk 12:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Orphaned article[edit]
Hi. Could someone see if they can link to this new article? 1950 Ferrari 166 Berlinetta Le Mans. Thanks Gbawden (talk) 09:55, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm, it is far too specific. It should be made into a Ferrari 166 MM article, if not merged altogether with the other Ferrari 166 articles. I could do it one of these days. Cloverleaf II (talk) 19:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Sergio Marchionne: "Ferrari is not for sale"[edit]
This article is currently wrong. Fiat will not be selling Ferrari as announced by Marchionne. I intend to remove the information over the next day or so reflecting this news. CassiantoTalk 10:10, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Text removed per this announcement from Marchionne in Bloomberg Business News. CassiantoTalk 19:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I undid your edit, as the IPO is official. See for example Bloomberg:Ferrari IPO Filing to Come in Days, Fiat Chrysler CEO Says. I'm not much versed in finance, so I cannot tell if currently the whole operation is described correctly. —Cloverleaf II (talk) 19:53, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's a reliable source and post-dates the original citations. The text is outdated and should never have been added per WP:CRYSTAL. I shall self revert but the wording needs to reflect the sources. CassiantoTalk 20:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- True, it badly needs to be reworded appropriately, but the IPO announcement is months old news and has got to be included in the article. As I said I'm not too comfortable with these matters, otherwise I'd have done something about it already. —Cloverleaf II (talk) 20:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's a reliable source and post-dates the original citations. The text is outdated and should never have been added per WP:CRYSTAL. I shall self revert but the wording needs to reflect the sources. CassiantoTalk 20:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I undid your edit, as the IPO is official. See for example Bloomberg:Ferrari IPO Filing to Come in Days, Fiat Chrysler CEO Says. I'm not much versed in finance, so I cannot tell if currently the whole operation is described correctly. —Cloverleaf II (talk) 19:53, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
It appears that only a 10% portion of the company will sold publicly in the IPO – the remainder will accrue to FCA shareholders, with 10% still held by Piero Ferrari personally. See this. I'll try to update the article later today... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:51, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
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Current models update?[edit]
How are we judging the current models? Because current ferrari website for 458's only has the speciales, not the Italia. If this is the system we're using, we also need to put the Speciale A in as it is distinguished as a separate vehicle archetype on the website. Eralam (talk) 20:49, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- Done I've updated the table and removed the regular 458s, which without doubt have been out of production for a while. I'd say the Speciales can be left there till the end of the year. —Cloverleaf II (talk) 21:28, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Our savior the F40[edit]
The beast its self is so iconic but lets talk about its inner details and ect. Correctguy75 (talk) 23:16, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Redirection from "Ferraris"[edit]
What's the point of having "Ferraris" (plural form) redirect here, when there is at least a dozen people with Ferraris as surname on Wikipedia? (like Galileo Ferraris, one of the pioneers of our current AC electricity system...) I'd prefer if the redirect was pointing at the disambiguation page instead. WooShell (talk) 09:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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Ferrari N.V.[edit]
Ferrari NV established in 2013 and has not relationship with "Auto Avio Costruzioni" (now Ferrari SpA). Is only the owner of Ferrari SpA. (see for example Porshe and Porshe SE). --IM-yb (talk) 13:35, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
split the article? Ferrari N.V. had little information to write as a separate article than a section (something about IPO and stock information may be), just 100% owner of Ferrari S.p.A. Matthew_hk tc 16:59, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Three years later, this still hasn't be fixed. I've changed the article heading from Ferrari N.V. to simply Ferrari, so at least the article does not start with a factual inaccuracy... Personally I'm in favour to a separate article for the holding company, Ferrari N.V.. —Cloverleaf II (talk) 18:16, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Store section[edit]
The section on stores does not belong per WP:NOTDIR. It is not encyclopedic. The section does not even explain what they are - retail locations selling branded merchandise (not autos). Unless there is an objection and policy-based rational for keeping it, I will remove it. MB 20:59, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- That's unobjectionable, go ahead! —Cloverleaf II (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Laura Dominica Garello[edit]
Hello, the article doesn't mention Laura Dominica Garello, wife of Enzo, who was heavily involved in the management in the 1950s and 1960s. --167.58.138.118 (talk) 15:45, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Tractors?[edit]
I came to this article to find the relation between this company. And the Ferrari tractors. And I did not.
Can someone inform me on this? I konw they are still made. And the old ones used the same style of Ferrari name.
I think the article would be better if it told about this conetion. Or the lack of it. 83.243.222.17 (talk) 17:57, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
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Possible removal from list[edit]
An entry in List of colors: A–F contained a link to this page.
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- Ferrari red
I don't see any evidence that this color is discussed in this article and plan to delete it from the list per this discussion: Talk:List_of_colors#New_approach_to_review_of_entries
If someone decides that this color should have a section in this article and it is added, I would appreciate a ping.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- From the perspective of someone familiar with Ferrari history, I support deleting "Ferrari red" from the list. "Ferrari red" has never been an official designation from Ferrari for a specific color. It is a colloquial term that could be used to refer to one of many colors used on Ferraris, such as Rosso Corsa, Rosso Scuderia, Rosso Mugello or Rosso Cina. To make things even more complicated, while Rosso Corsa is the most famous shade it has varied considerably, something already covered in wikipedia's article Rosso Corsa. So while its possibly appropriate to mention within the Ferrari article use of multiple "Ferrari reds", since red hues are very widely and characteristically used on Ferraris, there's not really one single color of "Ferrari red" that could be supported by the Ferrari article. Prova MO (talk) 15:31, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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